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Mark T. Barclay Ministries cultI am working on another new video. I posted the trailer on Barclay’s public Facebook page, but he took it off for some reason. I guess, he didn’t like it, but Barclay’s son liked it on Youtube.

Barclay’s TV productions aren’t that professional anyways, with all of Barclay’s followers investments, they are only a single step up from Amazing Grace church productions, and that’s not saying much!  I’ve seen the best in churches at Hillsong in Australia, been taught by better and have a better foundation in both editing and photography. With that said, Amazing Grace Church could do much better with recording with a single iPhone without an external mic and using iMovie to edit, than the rubbish they are using to record sound and video now. The stuff they used in 2000 was even absolute junk then!

I know this personally, because I worked with Amazing Grace Church’s production team for sometime early 2000 to 2005. I finally had to leave, because they blatantly refused to listen to any professional suggestions that really worked. I was sad, because I thought that I could have helped them a lot. But within a few years I was traveling around the globe and was accepted in an art school, acting in commercials and got my degree in film from a university in the U.K.

One of my editing instructor in film school who taught me, one of his students went on and edited all LOTR and Hobbits and my other teacher is in Hollywood now and I could name countless films edited by her. On top of that, I’ve worked with other professionals, like stunt coordinators from the Hong kong, China and Hollywood movie industry. This is just who I am and my background and if I really want to turn up the heat on these productions I can. For now it’s just using my iMac.  Ken

Since this is Trinity sunday and one week after Pentecost. I thought this weekend would be a great time to give something back to the Church. You can watch me dismantle Mark T. Barclay’s heresies on the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ in this video.

Mark T. Barclay is a false teacher and he knows it. To teach such blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and then to go about and boast on his Facebook account and Twitter that he has done so for the last 35 years is utterly shameful, because it’s down right unholy and evil.

Here’s in a nutshell what Mark T. Barclay has heretically taught. 

1. Mark T. Barclay has taught that God is made up of parts and is a three-part being.

2. He has taught that the Trinity is not individual persons(hypostasis).

3. Like the Jehovah Witnesses, has taught that in heaven God was Creator and not the Father. Thus, an Arian concept of the Person of the Father.

4. Barclay has taught that God changed for human understanding.

5. Damages the orthodox teaching of Christ’s hypostatic union, being fully God and fully man.

 

Note: While watching Barclay’s service, I thought it was ironic that his Church celebrated an American holiday(Father’s day) over Trinity sunday. Barclay never once mentioned that it was Trinity sunday nor taught on the Trinity.

I will leave you with this mornings opening prayer at my church.

Almighty and everlasting God, you have given to us your servants grace, by the confession of a true faith, to acknowledge the glory of the eternal Trinity, and in the power of your divine Majesty to worship the Unity: Keep us steadfast in this faith and worship, and bring us at last to see you in your one and eternal glory, O Father; who with the Son and the Holy Spirit live and reign, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

 

Blessings,

Ken

Here is a new video that I made and will put it up other places soon and hopefully before Barclay tries suppressing the truth like other Trinitarian heretics.

It’s called Mark T. Barclay: Heresy on the Trinity.

Here is an alternative link. 

Mark T. Barclay: Sex, Lies, and Videotape

I wanted to do a new post to sum up a lot of what has been said in the last two years since I discovered that Mark T. Sex, Lies, VideotapeBarclay was teaching the most devastating Trinitarian and Christological heresies known to Christianity.

So, in doing so, I have divided it into three main themes: Sex, Lies, and Videotape. These themes reflect Mark T. Barclay’s leadership and legacy both in Mid-Michigan and the Word of Faith churches who follow his destructive teachings or associate him as a Prophet and their leader. 

As in regard to Mark T. Barclay’s Trinitarian heresies. For those who have been readers of this theological blog these heresies on the Godhead and the Person of Christ have been well documented and taken from Mark T. Barclay’s own national recorded teachings and writings, so they should be nothing new to you. But maybe a wake up call to those who don’t know!

These destructive heresies are things that Barclay has taught over and over on National Television and which have been uploaded by his church to Word-faith sites and linked from Twitter and other social sites.

So let’s begin…..LIES. Well, this has been an ongoing fruit of Mark T. Barclay’s cultic ministry in Mid-Michigan and abroad. From using a fraudulent cult expert to verify that his ministry wasn’t a ‘cult’ and to recently lying on Twitter that his ministry has always taught God’s people about the Trinity and that he has always held to an Orthodox understanding of the Godhead.

The truth is that Mark T. Barclay has falsely taught that God changed and blasphemed the Holy Spirit by teaching that Spirit is not a Person nor the third person in the Holy Trinity. And beyond that, evilly collapsed the ontological Trinity into parts resembling his son Josh, which is flat out idolatry! Thus, breaking the First and Second Commandments by his heresy.

Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

One of the greatest tragedies of this heresy is that the people who have wrote to this blog, and who have defended Mark T. Barclay’s position on the Trinity perceive that there is no difference between a part and a divine person. This is how heretically confused his followers and associated leaders are on basic doctrinal Christianity.

The factual truth is that Mark T. Barclay has not just lied to men on Twitter concerning the Doctrine of the Trinity and his teachings on the Person of Christ, but he has lied to God the Holy Spirit. How can I say this? Because it’s an over obvious Trinitarian heresy and it has been VIDEOTAPED…..recorded, thus well documented.

Let me use an example to illustrate this point. How did America know that former President Bill Clinton was having an affair with Monica Lewinsky when he publicly denied it? Well, it was from the evidence and much of it was from recorded evidence that the former President was not telling the truth.

In the same way we can know that Mark T. Barclay has lied concerning his credibility on the Evangelical Doctrine of the Trinity on his Twitter. Why can I say that? Because his track recorded speaks differently and his own recorded teachings already tell what he has been teaching concerning the Person of Christ and the Trinity and what he has taught is heretically and evil. So much so, that the Church Father’s condemned Barclay along with Arius and Sabellius as heretics.

Mark T. Barclay like all other false prophets can say what he wants to say. But the truth in the matter of his teaching on the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ speaks differently, because he has taught the worse Trinitarian and Christological heresies known to the Christian church.

I don’t know if his followers can handle the truth or do they really know how to judge the truth and contrast it in the person of their leader with the Law of God and sound Evangelical Doctrine. I write that, because many think he is infallible, because Barclay lies and acts that he is so.

If, Mark T. Barclay wasn’t a heretic nor a false prophet. He should have come out and publicly repented for his evil teachings on the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ and taken the time away from his teaching ministry to get help to rectify his cultic patterns of ministry and should have corrected the heresies in his sermons, and books.

But what was witnessed on Twitter was not so and Barclay tweeted that he has never believed differently and has always taught the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity. Which is a great contrast from the factual truth found in his past heretical sermons, books and teachings on the Godhead. Thus by his own lies on Twitter Mark T. Barclay again confirms who he is, being a heretic and a false prophet.

If you are following Mark T. Barclay then, I’d be very careful! Because he is a deceiver and can’t be trusted. Here we have a self-titled ‘so called man of God’, ‘prophet’, ‘general’, ‘leader’ that can Tweet one thing about himself. Which by record we know isn’t factually true, but are flat out lies about his credibility, and doctrinal integrity and we know this from what he has taught.

And on top of that to beg, ask, demand with blessings or cursing, manipulate his followers finances through Shepherding and Prosperity teachings for money from tithes, offerings, and more offerings. Only to use their money to further his lies and evil teachings on the Godhead and the Person of Jesus Christ. And not only that to used their money to support his jet and materialistic lifestyle of himself and his wife.

In Mark T. Barclay a great heretic and liar is exposed! If a guy can lie about the Rule of faith, which is the Trinity. Then he can lie about anything including his education, prophecies, lifestyle, ministry activity, etc..

And finally, we get to SEX and this is where I come to to Ed Dufrasne. Who upon Dufrasne horrific death Mark T. Barclay tweeted,A great champion is now in Heaven. We’ll miss Dr. Ed Dufresne and his mantle to help humanity.”

I don’t think there is a more morally corruptible minister in Mark T. Barclay’s circle of leaders than the now deceased Ed Dufrasne and this is the man who Barclay calls a champion. Before his death, Mr. Dufrasne conducted the marriage of his long time “son in the faith pastor”, who incestuously married his own daughter in law. Which incest began when the daughter in law was taking care of the dying pastor’s wife, while the pastor’s son was away serving as a soldier.

In his book called The Prophet: Friend of God, Ed Dufrasne writes: “Some are arguing about the Trinity. How is that going to equip you to help people?” Crazy right? I think Mr. Dufrasne forgot that the Holy Spirit is………. “HOLY”. Defrasne has the audacity to question the importance of the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity and then commit such an unholy act in marrying two people in outrages sin and didn’t think nothing of it.

And on top of that Mark T. Barclay never questioned, nor corrected such unthinkable act, but called him a champion and one who helped humanity. I guess, what Mark T. Barclay means is that Mr. Dufrasne helped humanity sin in outrages ways. 

We can write further about other men in Mark T. Barclay’s circles like Richard Jolliff of Amazing Grace Church in Wheeler, Michigan. Who has raised a homosexual leader now who is evangelizing youth at CMU and now Richard is not only pastoring the Church, but pastoring youth even after nurtured someone who resembles Sodom.

For someone like myself who spent 16 years in youth ministry. I can say that would have been unfathomable and wouldn’t have never happened under the watch of the youth pastors that I served with. But this is the manifestation of the corruption that is happening in the Word-faith Church. Where corruption like Ed Dufrasne is common with leaders in Mark T. Barclay’s Word-faith circles. Bishops, pastors, so called prophets are living like pimps and gangsters with lavish lifestyle from offering moneys and having sex with whole families. 

 

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use

“Can you really handle persecution? What if it’s over the Doctrine of the Trinity or the Person of Jesus Christ? Very few do or reflect this authentic Biblical leadership witnessed by the Apostles and Church Fathers. You want to talk about grace? How about grace in the midst of real persecution and I’m not talking about right wing political persecution of abortion and standing up for U.S patriotism or against gay rights. Anyone can do that without the grace of God! But very few will stand against heresy as in the case of Mark T. Barclay and his false teachings, which heresy being so evil(and well documented) are absolutely destructive on the Doctrine of the Trinity and the right understanding of the Person of Jesus Christ.” Kenneth Lee Mattson

 

 

 

Billy Graham“The Bible teaches that God is actually three Persons. This is a mystery that we will never be able to understand. The Bible does not teach that there are three Gods –but that there is one God. This one God, however, is expressed in three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit.”

 “The Second Person of this Trinity is God’s Son, Jesus Christ. He is co-equal with God the Father. He was not a Son of God but the Son of God. He is the Eternal Son of God –the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, God manifested in the flesh, the living Savior.” Peace with God by Billy Graham, Page 89.

 The above quote is from Reverend Billy Graham, who is the most celebrated Evangelical of our time. Throughout Graham’s books and preaching of the Gospel there is always an underlying Trinitarianism as seen above.

 So in this post, I want to point out further the distinctions between the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity and Mark T. Barclay’s Trinitarian heresy . Or in other words, I want to show again how drastically different Mark T. Barclay’s god is being a three-part being and not Persons in Trinity as he teaches. And by contrast continue to show that Mark T. Barclay is worshipping a different god than Christianity.

Though on Twitter, Mark T. Barclay says he believes in the Trinity, but when Barclay’s actual teachings and sermons on the Trinity are contrasted with Billy Graham and Christian orthodoxy, this is apparently not so.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

 Subsequently, like all other trinitarian heretics. Not only does Barclay deny such Orthodoxy held by Evangelicals as Billy Graham, but destroys it through his heretical teachings on both the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ.

 Thus, Mark T. Barclay’s own falsehood is just part of his masquerade to get people to believe a lie by clothing his false messages on the Trinity with the language of Scripture. And another way to get more money to pay for his jet and other over expenditures and for people to think he is a genuine a leader and an Evangelical.

 One would have to be Scripturally stupid to believe Mark T. Barclay after listening to him teach on the Doctrine of the Trinity. I say stupid, because this is the language of Scripture to all who receive a false gospel.

 Why did I say gospel? Well, because a God who is composed of parts is not the God of the Lord Jesus Christ and a god composed of parts as Mark T. Barclay’s can’t save.

 God, however, being without parts, is Father of the Son without division and without being acted upon. For neither is there an effluence from that which is incorporeal, nor is there anything flowering into him from without, as in the case of men. Being simple in nature, he is Father of one only Son” Saint Athanasius (Letter on the Council of Nicaea A.D. 350)

 One of the words used by Saint Athanasius in the above quotes that immediately condemns Mark T. Barclay’s heresy is the word “incorporeal”. What does incorporeal mean? It means that God does not have a body and is not composed of parts, and certainly not a three-part being as Barclay teaches.  

Thus, God is spirit as the Bible teaches and it’s absolutely unscriptural and heretical for Mark T. Barclay to teach who the Trinity is composed of parts like his son Josh and not distinct Persons. “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24

 Why is the Trinity important? Well, first of all it’s important, because it’s God’s own identity and the Doctrine of the Trinity, and along with the Doctrine on the Person of Christ regulates true worship.

 The Doctrine of the Trinity is so important that it separates true worship and false worship and it separates Christianity from cults. Clearly, Mark T. Barclay, being a heretic is worshiping another god who is a trinity of parts.

 “But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted.” 2 Cor 11:3-4

“Something has emerged in my walk with God that has become the most important element of my discipleship. It has become the thing that sustains me, that feeds me, that keeps me steady when I am shaky. I have come to see God, to know Him, to relate to Him as Three-in-One, God as Trinity, God as Father, Saviour, and Holy Spirit. God has given to me over the years a vision of Himself as Three-in-One, and the ability to relate to God in that way is the single most important fact of my Christian growth.”  The Magnificent Three by Nicky Cruz

dangerHERE IS A VIDEO ON MARK T. BARCLAY’S HERESY ON THE TRINITY.  

A somewhat positive development has happened, so it seemed.

It seemed like Mark T. Barclay was changing his heretical position on the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, because on his twitter was tweeting Orthodox statements on the Trinity the last few days.

 Now he is saying on Twitter that he has always believed in the Trinity, but we know that isn’t the case with him, because his Trinitarian heresies are well documented. Not only that, but his books and teachings in whole aren’t Trinitarian.

This makes me wonder if Mark T. Barclay really knows the difference between truth and error and I think you should be asking the same question. Does he even hate error, even his own heretical error? This is what separates a man of God from other leaders and this is called holiness. Or is Mark T. Barclay just good at pointing things out in others for a righteous ‘show’.

All through out Saint Athanasius’s writings against the Arians and his writings to the Council of Nicaea he addresses Barclay’s heresy. That’s not a good think to be in the crosshairs of the Father of Orthodoxy addressing him and the Arians for their shared errors!

The frightening thing about Mark T. Barclay like all like him. They say that they believe something but go out and teach thee worst Trinitarian and Christological heresies known to the Church as in the case of Barclay. Whereas, the Jehovah Witnesses, we know what they believe, because flat out most of the time they will tell you.

But then again, in the case of Mark T. Barclay it’s his own credibility that is being ruined from his own apostasy. Because his statements are not true and people know that and the ministries that come to this site for info can see that. Barclay has not always held to an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and he should admit his great theological errors that lead to his apostasy instead of otherwise.

TD Jake’s journey to Trinitarianism is much different. It’s been one of repentance in humility and he is still on that journey. This is quite different from Mark T. Barclay, much different. Barclay reminds me of a kid who got caught stealing cookies, while pulling his hand from the cookie jar, cries, “I didn’t do it!”. People know better. The only people who don’t know better are deceived or are liberals who don’t care about sound doctrine.

Let it not be forgotten that in regards to Mark T. Barclay, we are not only talking about heresy, but apostasy. If he really has an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and the Person of Christ then time will tell, because it will be in the fruit of his teachings. But it’s a deceitful lie for him to say that he has always believed in the Trinity as the true Church does, because his track record tells otherwise. True faith is never without works….

“They do not seem to recognize the wickedness, the confusion and the heinousness of error. They appear to regard truth and error with equanimity. They do not have that holy love of truth and equally holy hatred of error that would secure them against apostasy.”

Ken

 

Updated: 11-02-2014

Mark T. Barclay: A different Trinity, a three-part being, by Ken Mattson

The Great Deacon Athanasius

The Great Deacon Athanasius

 With many applauses from his congregation in his heretical sermons on the Doctrine of the Trinity. The trinitarian heretic Mark T. Barclay  proclaims that the “great god”……he serves is a “three part being!”

“We call him Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You are made after the image of God. You are a spirit…you have a soul…you live in a body. God’s a three-part being. Humans were created by God in Eden as a three-part being.” Mark T. Barclay-The names of God part two.

So is the Trinity a three-part being as Mark T. Barclay teaches and believes in? NO! This is cultic, being absolutely heretical and not only that, but a blasphemous heresy on the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity!

By teaching that the Trinity is a three part being and not distinct Persons. The false prophet Mark T. Barclay is teaching a destructive heresy. Thus, Barclay’s god is drastically different from the Triune and personal God of the true Christian Church.

 Furthermore, like the Jehovah Witnesses who are the modern Arians, and who also heretically named God after his works as Creator. Mark T. Barclay names God as Creator, instead of the proper and Scriptural name as the eternal Father of the Lord Jesus. And greatly furthers the Arian heresy by teaching that God was not always called Father from eternity, but that there was change in God’s name for the sake of creation’s understanding.

 In other words, Mark T. Barclay continues the Arian heresy by naming God’s name as Creator and not the eternal Father, but teaches that there was change in God. Thus, clearly, Mark T. Barclay’s god is drastically different than the God of Christianity. Because the God of Christianity is one God being indivisible and Triune in three distinct Persons, and doesn’t change.

“Far removed is the Father of all from those things which operate among men, the affections and passions. He is simple, not composed of parts, without structure, altogether like and equal to himself alone. He is all mind, all spirit, all thought, all intelligence, all reason . . . all light, all fountain of every good..” Irenaeus, Against Heresies 2:13:3 [A.D. 189].

 In his newer book on the Trinity. Michael Reeves writes:

 “In Fact, we should not even set out in our understanding of God by thinking of God primarily as Creator(naming him “from” his works only)-that, as we have seen, would make him dependent on his creation.” Michael Reeves- Delighting in the Trinity.

 That quote was in reference to Saint Athanasius to his brilliant life long defence of the Doctrine of the Trinity against the Arians. But I’d like to add more and that it’s not only in regards to God’s name. As Saint Athanasius went on to say further that by naming God from his works as Creator did indeed warped and destroyed the true Christian God’s own identity as the eternal Father. Thus making a different god than from Scripture as the heretic Mark T. Barclay and the Arians blasphemous do in their shared teachings on the Godhead.

 “Therefore it is more pious and more accurate to signify God from the Son and call Him Father, than to name Him from His works.” Church Father-Saint Athanasius, Discourses Against the Arians: Discourse 1, Chapter 9:34

 I believe in one God, the Father Almighty.”  The Nicene Creed http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nicene.htm

Thus, Mark T. Barclay is not only heretically wrong in one way by evilly teaching that God is a three-part being and not Persons. He is also heretically wrong in other ways by furthering the Arian heresy by teaching that the Father wasn’t Father,  but was Creator and that there was changed in God.

As I already told Richard Jolliff and Chuck Seeley about Mark T. Barclay. Men who by the way, are both anti-denominational and basic doctrinal stupids in their own right! I told both of them, that in Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity. There are at least three evil heresies the Christian church has already condemned. Thus, Mark T. Barclay not only heretically denies the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, but he is worshipping a different god who is a trinity of parts and not distinct eternal Persons as Scripture clearly teaches.

Furthermore, men like Chuck Seeley and Mark T. Barclay can’t look to the Orthodoxy of the Church on such important doctrines as the Trinity or the Orthodox doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ and Original Sin(Pelagius). Why? Because once they do, they are indicted as heretics for their evil heresies! Not only by Scripture, but indicted in time and space by the Church Fathers through the Orthodoxy on which the true Christian church stands.

Rick Renner, quoting A. W. Tozer, who was one of the most balanced theologians of modern times. Renner quotes:

“The apostles not only taught truth but contended for its purity against any who would corrupt it. The Pauline epistles resist every effort of false teachers to introduce doctrinal vagaries. John’s epistles are sharp with condemnation of those teachers who harassed the young church by denying the incarnation and throwing doubts upon the doctrine of the Trinity; and Jude in his brief but powerful epistle rises to heights of burning eloquence as he pours scorn upon evil teachers who would mislead the saints.”

So, does Mark T. Barclay believe in the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, which is held by the true Church? Absolutely not! But if you believe that he does, then you are as stupid and very much deceived as the Galatians! Because Barclay’s own teachings heretically deny such Orthodox belief. No paper thin Statement of Beliefs on the internet can cover up what he already teaches.

Anyone can lie and say they believe in something, and not practice it! Or in Barclay’s case, falsely say that he believes in the Trinity by a posted Statement of Beliefs. Yet, then goes about and destroys such Orthodox beliefs on the Trinity and teachings on the eternal Person of Jesus Christ through evil heresies.

So in summery, Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is heresy and compounded with heresies and the obvious ones are Arianism and Sabellianism. Mark’s own conception of God is irrefutably Arian in nature and his evil denial of actual Persons in the Godhead is Sabellianism.

Isn’t it ironic that the most celebrated defender of the Trinity, Saint Athanasius who is the Father of Orthodoxy. Would address the so called Bible-man himself Mark T. Barclay on the pages of Athanasius own writings against the Arians? And not only in the writings against the Arians, but Athanasius also addresses Barclay in his writings to the First Council of Nicaea on the Trinity. He not only address Barclay, but directly refutes Mark T. Barclay’s evil teachings.

It’s not only ironic, but it’s very prophetic . It must be quite unnerving to be in Barclay’s shoes and find himself and his teaching on the Trinity being refuted and condemned word by word, by the great Athanasius, which happened more than seventeen centuries ago. When the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity was put forth at Nicaea to combat the Arian heresy.

Thus, the status and legacy of Mark T. Barclay in light of Scripture and the Church’s Orthodoxy is that he is a heretic and self-condemned by his own evil teachings on the Godhead and the Person of Christ and this is irrefutable.

As Walter Martin used to say in regards to false doctrine: “Does anyone get excited in the presents of evil anymore?”

“In Genesis Chapter. 1, it defines the Trinity of God, the three parts of God. You are made by the way after his image, three parts. There was a Creator, he was later called Jehovah. There was his word, later on when he come here God said you call this baby, not the Word, but Jesus which really means Yahshua….and then of course the bible talks about the Spirit of God……now these aren’t three different people. We teach them sorta, kinda almost as three different people for the sake of teaching. Now that Creator, Word and Spirit for the sake of man understanding and relating was changed by God, you can read it in the Scriptures, I know you know this, forgive me this so elementary. But it was changed to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” Mark T. Barclay, Jesus the command giver

In complete denial of the “Persons” of the Trinity. Barclay goes on and further mixes up who the members of the Trinity are. This is not isolated, because the ramifications of  this destructive heresy continues to manifest in the leadership’s prayers from the teaching pulpit. Where they mix up the names and roles of the eternal Persons of the Trinity.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

America knew that former President Bill Clinton committed adultery because all the facts pointed to that even when he publicly denied it in the first place. We know that Mark T. Barclay has taught the worst heresy on the Trinity and the Person of Christ by what he has taught and now is lying that he did otherwise. If a person will lie about God who is Trinity, than they are capable of lying about anything. The facts point to his apostasy from his heresy and now Barclay is publicly lying that he did otherwise.

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use.

 

Mark T. Barclay and Ed Dufresne: Scandal, Incestuous Fornication and Legacy. Written by Ken Mattson

“The grueling details became abundantly clear. My dad had stolen my brother’s wife, even hiring and paying for a divorce attorney for her, and now he is trying to steal his daughter! On January 7th, 2010 our dad married Lorena Matthews, in a ceremony performed by his so called ‘spiritual father’, Ed Dufresne, who saw no issue with the union. I guess he forgot to read Leviticus 18 or 1 Corinthians 5!”

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html Dr. Ed Dufresne speaks to members of the Triumphant Faith Center Thursday night in Wichita. (photo by Ashlee Burlie)  Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html#storylink=cpy

Grabbed here..http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html Dr. Ed Dufresne speaks to members of the Triumphant Faith Center Thursday night in Wichita. (photo by Ashlee Burlie)

Who is Ed Dufresne? Well, basically he was a very close friend to Mark T. Barclay and a troubled Word of Faith minister who recently died a horrible death much like the evil heretic Arius.

It was reported last week that so called prophet Ed Dufresne plane exploded in the sky after a climb of more than 10 thousand feet and plane parts strung out for more than a mile and from the gruesome report it also seems body parts were also found in the scattered wreckage.

Way back in the middle or late 1990’s and 2000’s I attended a few of Mr. Defresne meetings while I lived in the United States. It wasn’t exactly like being in a Kenneth E. Hagin Sr service, which I also attended when I visited Rhema Bible College earlier that decade. But it was on a similar level, because Defresne was one of Hagin’s copy cats.

One of the main emphasis in all of Ed Defresne ministry teachings was his anti-denominational beliefs that clearly was the basis of a lot of his false teachings and it’s interesting to note that his calling was based on voices and personal visions that he said were from Jesus.

While Defresne preaching would be considered pretty good in Word-faith circles. Much of it was out of personal experience and not based on Scripture alone nor to my knowledge was is preaching exegetical enough to call it true biblical teaching.

In other words, the majority of his teachings stemmed from Word-faith and clerical ideas supported and lines up exactly to what is being practiced and preached in other Charismatic offshoots today. Such as in many of the Shepherding and Third Wave movements.

In recent years, prophet Ed Dufresne conducted an disgusting act of the incestuous marriage to his long time son in the faith Doctor and

Reverend Bill Matthews of Solid Rock Church in Elk River, Minnesota to Matthew’s own daughter-in-law.

From what I understand, the Reverends’ wife was sick and dying while he was carrying out an affair with his own son’s wife in another room. All along while the good son was away serving the country in the military.

I can hardly imagine such an heinous act being done like this… As in Christian leader as doing incestuous fornication! That this father should have and take his own son’s wife, which is his daughter in law! And beyond that the absolute the depraved sick conduct of Mr. Ed Dufresne’s part in bringing the two incest couple together in a covenant union.

This depraved conduct is beyond words…. But then again we have Mark T. Barclay who was Defresne close buddy preaching something much more heinously sick and more evil in the Church with his heretical teaching on the Doctrine of the Trinity!

This depraved conduct is beyond words…. But then again we have Mark T. Barclay who was Defresne close buddy preaching something much more heinously sick and more evil in the Church with his heretical teaching on the Doctrine of the Trinity! By the wayTrinitarian heresy, like incestuous fornication, destroys the temple of God!

So right after his wife’s death and his son’s divorce prophet Ed Dufresne and long time close ministry friend of Mark T. Barclay conducted the scandalous incest union between Reverend Bill Matthews and his daughter-in-law.

Incest defined

Incest is sexual activity between family members and close relatives. This may include sexual activity between people in a consangueous relationship (blood relations), or related by affinity, such as members of the same household, step relatives, those related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage.     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest

1. Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom. 2. The statutory crime of sexual relations with such a near relative.    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incest

It should be noted that the incestuous marriage, even as of recently before Defresne death. That prophet Dufresne preached at Reverend Matthew’s church multiple times and this comes after Defresne did under Barclay’s friendship this sinful and heinous act in marrying the couple.

“Here I also want to add that just because this pastor got married to his daughter in law. That this doesn’t mean that the sin of incest is cleared, because they are married now. But the fact is, that he is living in incest even after the marriage…” Ken Mattson

Here I also want to add that just because this pastor got married to his daughter in law. That this doesn’t mean that the sin of incest is cleared, because they are married now. But the fact is, that he is living in incest even after the marriage.

Moreover, it’s not just incest which is shameful in itself that he is living in, but it’s compounded and more deprave being Incestuous Fornication. So, if you are one of Barclay’s and Defresnes connected leaders and thinking that this pastor is already cleared of sin like Mark T. Barclay, because he is married. Well, then you are completely wrong, because biblically he is not!

Beyond that, this is a matter of his sin and Matthew’s incestuous sin that Ed Defresne should have dealt with after marry the incest couple. Then condone and cover his actions someway like Mark T. Barclay Ministries did both morally and theologically in regards to Defresnse friendship and conduct is radically sinful, because Scripture doesn’t condone such sick sin, which he committed himself as a minster and a so called prophet.

But then again there are others who were notified about his shame in Mark T. Barclay’s Righteous Preachers Network like Mac Hammond who did nothing to stop this shameful actions of so called prophet Ed Defresne!

In regarding the incidence of incest in the Corinthian Church, Pentecostal theologian Gordon Fee writes in his commentary:

“The problem, however, is not simply a relaxed attitude toward sin, but whether they also tried to give a theological basis for it and thereby to condone it.”

Pentecostal and New Testament theologian Gordon D. Fee. The Case of the Incestuous Man. Page 197, Commentary on First Corinthians.

“…but had his father been dead, and he, after his decease, married to her, it had been incest still, but neither fornication nor adultery in the strictest sense. But to marry her, or keep her as a concubine, while his father was alive, though he had repudiated her, or she had deserted him, whether she were his own mother or not, was incestuous fornicationMatthew Henry on First Corinthians.

But in contrary to biblical holiness and morality, Mark T. Barclay has this to say this on Ed Dufrasne his long time ministry buddy who recently conducted the marriage that resulted in this unthinkably incestuous fornication sin:

“Another great earth warrior and champion, Dr. Ed Dufresne, has entered Heaven to fellowship that much closer with the Jesus he loved so much and to wander there with great glee and joy in the place he preached about so often. He’s now fellowshipping with one of his favorite men of God, Dr. Kenneth Hagin….Over the years, Brother Dufresne and I have ministered together in many, many conferences and outpouring meetings. I know he will be rewarded in Heaven and, of course, extremely missed here on earth.”

Really Barclay? You make your friendship with Ed’s sickness sound so flowery. Why is he Ed not fellowshipping with the Apostle Paul who part of the true Church and inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote against Defresne’s sin of marrying this couple?

Your close buddy is a champion…..of incest and fornication? And Barclay presumptuously calls himself a preacher of righteousness! But yet refused to do anything about his ministry buddy who conducted this heinous act of marrying this incestuous couple and not only a couple, but Christian leaders.

False prophet and heretic pastor Mark T. Barclay like all other heretics is a great liar like his father the devil, who was a liar from the beginning and like Barclay there is no truth in the devil! Mark T. Barclay’s preaching on morality is paper thin and we can see this and it’s only to draw people to himself for money and followers.

If this wasn’t so, then Barclay would have dealt with Ed Dufresne and others in heinous sin that his close friends commit on a national level. This is the same thing when Mark T. Barclay comes to the pulpit and says that he believes in the Trinity, but then denies such orthodoxy with his evil heresy. This is because he is a liar and walking in great darkness, which the Christian Church has condemned.

Last Update: Nov 7, 2013. This post has gotten more hits than many others that I’ve posted, with the exception of the the topic of Mark T. Barclay and the Trinity. 

Mark T. Barclay: Accusations by way of Ad Hominem, by Ken Mattson

Ad hominem

1. appealing to one’s prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one’s intellect or reason.

2. attacking an opponent’s character rather than answering his argument.

Definition from dictionary.com

I have been meaning to address this this accusation for a while. I even wanted to do a podcast for this one, but I never got around in having enough time and my 2010 Macbook decided to finally quit. So, I was left to do blogging for the last 8 months on Windows until I received my new Macbook a few weeks ago.

Do I hate Mark T. Barclay? 

For one, I think this is a stupid question, but then again in the mind of his followers, it may be a legible one.

Though on the contrary, I certainly don’t do this blog out of hate for anyone and not even hate for false prophet as Mark T. Barclay or even other cults like the Latter Day Saints. But I blog out of the commandment to contend for the faith.

“Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.” Jude 1:3

One of the questions that I’ve personally had and it’s been a rhetorical one so far is why hasn’t anyone else said anything about Barclay’s heretical teaching on the Orthodox Doctrine on the Trinity?

Even though that question has been rhetorical, from what I’ve seen in reality is that most Christians who know better, would rather Facebook about American right wing politics, than do any kind of apologetic work that would overtime help the Church in Mid-Michigan and further in the United States.

When I first wrote about the Captivity of Amazing Grace Church, I wrote this:

“Just as a donkey spoke to the false prophet Balaam, so to do donkeys speak to Mark T. Barclay today, but these donkeys are only analogous to the dumbness of the animal. The donkeys I am referring to are the men who I have mentioned before in Barclay’s own Preacher of Righteousness Network. These men are theological anorexics who flatter Barclay even as he is in deep error.”

While I still think that statement is true. I think it’s even worse, because of the radical acceptance of heresy that runs across the board in regards to the prophet ministry of Mark T. Barclay.

Helps Ministry

Helps Ministry

These men who have been trained by Mark T. Barclay are absolute stupids in Pauline terms! For many of the men can’t think theologically beyond cleaning toilets in the help’s ministry at Barclay’s own church….(Yes, they are theologically dumb as the back side of Balaam’s donkey!)

So the reality is when this blog wrote with concise examples about how Mark T. Barclay by his own evil has not only categorically denied the Trinity, but has taught heretically on this central doctrine. These men have the extreme audacity to come back and say that he has done differently. Well, it’s an astonishing show of their absolute ignorance of basic Biblical Christianity….!

“We call him Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You are made after the image of God. You are a spirit…you have a soul…you live in a body. God’s a three-part being. Humans were created by God in Eden as a three-part being.” Mark T. Barclay-The names of God part two.

These men show knowing more about Mark T. Barclay’s ‘neat’ sock drawer, than Christian doctrine!(And they have the nerve to called that bible college). I mean, for Pete’s sake, when was having a tidy sock drawer an character of a man of God? I thought it was sound doctrine! Well, Gandhi, probably had a perfect sock drawer, if he even wore socks that is…..lol

But on a more serious note, this coincides with one recent poll reported that atheist and agnostics know more about the Bible and Christian doctrine much better than Evangelicals. Mormons and Jewish believers came in second place. From the standpoint of this blog and from my interaction with Mark T. Barclay Preacher of Righteousness network leaders. I’d say the ignorance is even worse with men who are under Barclay’s leadership.

For example in Mark T. Barclay’s Minister of Righteousness Network, we can see this from the teachings of Chuck Seeley, who also is a Mayor of Breckenridge, Michigan. Not only is he a mayor, but he is also the worship leader at Amazing Grace Church.

I used Charlie, because his views reflect the great evil by way of false teachings that have come out of Amazing Grace Church in Wheeler, Michigan, which is under Mark T. Barclay’s leadership. For Chuck Seeley, will point blank tell anyone that Pelagius was a christian saint.

I personally know this, because I heard Richard Jolliff teach it and I confronted Chuck Seeley privately through email and Seeley emphatically wrote me back that Pelagius was indeed a saint and not a heretic. Even though in reality, every bit of history describes Pelagius and Pelagianism differently.

Pelagius (354 – 420?) a British monk famous for his piety, but declared a heretic for denying original sin. http://www.theopedia.com/Pelagius

Who was Pelagius? He was a preacher of righteousness and very moral like Gandhi, but don’t let his morality preaching fool you. Pelagius was an evil heretic and condemned by more Church councils than any other heretic in the history of Christianity.

And not only condemned heretic, Pelagius’s teachings are behind the most heinous crimes in the history of humanity. Like the ones committed byhitler Nazi Germany against God’s chosen people, the Jews, the child medical experiments at Auschwitz and all the other horrors of World War II were all spawned from the man Pelagius who Chuck Seeley heretically teaches was a saint.

William P. Farley writes for the Assembly of God’s Enrichment Journal:

The opposite is also true. Failure to emphasize the doctrine of sin usually amplifies evil. The better we feel about ourselves the worse we usually become. In the 20th century, Pelagian ideals have unleashed untold horrors. All the utopian movements of the last 100 years — Communism, Fascism, and Nazism — started and built on Pelagian assumptions about man.

So as a minister and mayor, why would Chuck Seeley teach that Pelagius was a saint even when Pelagian ideas were behind Nazism? It’s the same horrible reason why Richard Jolliff of the same church would let Mark T. Barclay act like Hitler in the damnation of Protestant Christianity at Amazing Grace Church.

It’s an example of their great darkness that works against the Church and humanity. Men who are led by the spirit of error along with their leader and prophet Mark T. Barclay. Men, proven to have no regard for Biblical Christianity. Openly teaching evil so great that it’s not only heretical in regards to the Trinity, but it’s also murderous in regards to God’s people!

Children medical experiments

Children medical experiments, Auschwitz

Without doubt and by facts alone we know what these men teach by the simple truth of what they teach. It’s not rocket science here! The sad thing is that it’s obvious that Mark T. Barclay’s followers don’t read the bible. Nor are they submitted to the authority of Scripture, because they are unable to recognize great error even on basic Biblical doctrines as the Trinity.

The truth is that Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is evil. For he teaches that the one God doesn’t eternally exist as three distinct persons-the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  But instead Barclay teaches that God is made up or composed of parts, which is heretical and is the worse Trinitarian heresy in the history of Christianity.

“His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person.” Hebrews 1:2-3 KJV

Frankly, there is no way that any verse in regards to the Godhead can be rendered as “parts” or a “part”, because it would have been translated so by the New Testament translators.  We can easily make this conclusion, because even the Authorized Version doesn’t support such aweful hermeneutics as in Mark T. Barclay’s heresy….

And the express image of his person; this intends much the same as the other phrase; namely, equality and sameness of nature, and distinction of persons; for if the Father is God, Christ must be so too; and if he is a person, his Son must be so likewise, or he cannot be the express image and character of him.Bible Study Tools

It’s just more proof directly from Scripture itself that Mark T. Barclay is in deep heretical error and is worshiping and prophesying by a different Christ who is not the Father’s express image of His “person”.

The Doctrine of the Trinity and the Orthodox doctrine of the Person of Christ is not a Calvinist doctrine though it’s held by Calvinist believers, nor is the Trinity just a Pentecostal or Charismatic doctrine! But it’s a shared doctrine by the Church.

So, when this blog or any other theologian writes about the Doctrine of the Trinity, we end up quoting a vast range of theologians and pastors from all across the Body of Christ, space and time. Because of this, we can say that the defining doctrines that separate the Kingdom of Christ from the Kingdom of Cults are these central doctrines of the Trinity and the Person of Christ.

And on top of that, we need to quote what Scripture has stated, because as we can see. Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is not for one second supported by Scripture alone nor by Christian orthodoxy and historically has been condemned as heresy.

Most bankers will know a counterfeit dollar bill from a real dollar bill by what it feels like. And in a very similar way by comparison, we know that beyond a shadow of doubt that Mark T. Barclay is a counterfeit and a great liar, along with being a heretic by what he falsely teaches and prophesies.

In other words, just as counterfeit bills can be identified by those who used them. We, also know that Mark T. Barclay when compared to the hitler-e-mussoliniChurch’s orthodox teachings and the Bible concerning the Doctrine of the Trinity and the Person of Christ that Mark T. Barclay is a counterfeit.

In closing, Barclay and his faithful my use ad hominems against this blog and blogger, but it doesn’t change the truth that he is a heretic and his ministry is a dangerous cult. And that goes also for other men in Barclay’s Preacher of Righteousness network like Chuck Seeley.

As we’ve seen above, Pelagius was no saint, but he was a heretic, and historically a condemned heretic and his teaching is responsible for the Third Reich and the medical experiments on jewish children and the murder of millions of God’s people under Hitler’s Germany.