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“Can you really handle persecution? What if it’s over the Doctrine of the Trinity or the Person of Jesus Christ? Very few do or reflect this authentic Biblical leadership witnessed by the Apostles and Church Fathers. You want to talk about grace? How about grace in the midst of real persecution and I’m not talking about right wing political persecution of abortion and standing up for U.S patriotism or against gay rights. Anyone can do that without the grace of God! But very few will stand against heresy as in the case of Mark T. Barclay and his false teachings, which heresy being so evil(and well documented) are absolutely destructive on the Doctrine of the Trinity and the right understanding of the Person of Jesus Christ.” Kenneth Lee Mattson

 

 

 

Billy Graham“The Bible teaches that God is actually three Persons. This is a mystery that we will never be able to understand. The Bible does not teach that there are three Gods –but that there is one God. This one God, however, is expressed in three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit.”

 “The Second Person of this Trinity is God’s Son, Jesus Christ. He is co-equal with God the Father. He was not a Son of God but the Son of God. He is the Eternal Son of God –the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, God manifested in the flesh, the living Savior.” Peace with God by Billy Graham, Page 89.

 The above quote is from Reverend Billy Graham, who is the most celebrated Evangelical of our time. Throughout Graham’s books and preaching of the Gospel there is always an underlying Trinitarianism as seen above.

 So in this post, I want to point out further the distinctions between the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity and Mark T. Barclay’s Trinitarian heresy . Or in other words, I want to show again how drastically different Mark T. Barclay’s god is being a three-part being and not Persons in Trinity as he teaches. And by contrast continue to show that Mark T. Barclay is worshipping a different god than Christianity.

Though on Twitter, Mark T. Barclay says he believes in the Trinity, but when Barclay’s actual teachings and sermons on the Trinity are contrasted with Billy Graham and Christian orthodoxy, this is apparently not so.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

 Subsequently, like all other trinitarian heretics. Not only does Barclay deny such Orthodoxy held by Evangelicals as Billy Graham, but destroys it through his heretical teachings on both the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ.

 Thus, Mark T. Barclay’s own falsehood is just part of his masquerade to get people to believe a lie by clothing his false messages on the Trinity with the language of Scripture. And another way to get more money to pay for his jet and other over expenditures and for people to think he is a genuine a leader and an Evangelical.

 One would have to be Scripturally stupid to believe Mark T. Barclay after listening to him teach on the Doctrine of the Trinity. I say stupid, because this is the language of Scripture to all who receive a false gospel.

 Why did I say gospel? Well, because a God who is composed of parts is not the God of the Lord Jesus Christ and a god composed of parts as Mark T. Barclay’s can’t save.

 God, however, being without parts, is Father of the Son without division and without being acted upon. For neither is there an effluence from that which is incorporeal, nor is there anything flowering into him from without, as in the case of men. Being simple in nature, he is Father of one only Son” Saint Athanasius (Letter on the Council of Nicaea A.D. 350)

 One of the words used by Saint Athanasius in the above quotes that immediately condemns Mark T. Barclay’s heresy is the word “incorporeal”. What does incorporeal mean? It means that God does not have a body and is not composed of parts, and certainly not a three-part being as Barclay teaches.  

Thus, God is spirit as the Bible teaches and it’s absolutely unscriptural and heretical for Mark T. Barclay to teach who the Trinity is composed of parts like his son Josh and not distinct Persons. “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24

 Why is the Trinity important? Well, first of all it’s important, because it’s God’s own identity and the Doctrine of the Trinity, and along with the Doctrine on the Person of Christ regulates true worship.

 The Doctrine of the Trinity is so important that it separates true worship and false worship and it separates Christianity from cults. Clearly, Mark T. Barclay, being a heretic is worshiping another god who is a trinity of parts.

 “But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted.” 2 Cor 11:3-4

“Something has emerged in my walk with God that has become the most important element of my discipleship. It has become the thing that sustains me, that feeds me, that keeps me steady when I am shaky. I have come to see God, to know Him, to relate to Him as Three-in-One, God as Trinity, God as Father, Saviour, and Holy Spirit. God has given to me over the years a vision of Himself as Three-in-One, and the ability to relate to God in that way is the single most important fact of my Christian growth.”  The Magnificent Three by Nicky Cruz

dangerHERE IS A VIDEO ON MARK T. BARCLAY’S HERESY ON THE TRINITY.  

A somewhat positive development has happened, so it seemed.

It seemed like Mark T. Barclay was changing his heretical position on the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, because on his twitter was tweeting Orthodox statements on the Trinity the last few days.

 Now he is saying on Twitter that he has always believed in the Trinity, but we know that isn’t the case with him, because his Trinitarian heresies are well documented. Not only that, but his books and teachings in whole aren’t Trinitarian.

This makes me wonder if Mark T. Barclay really knows the difference between truth and error and I think you should be asking the same question. Does he even hate error, even his own heretical error? This is what separates a man of God from other leaders and this is called holiness. Or is Mark T. Barclay just good at pointing things out in others for a righteous ‘show’.

All through out Saint Athanasius’s writings against the Arians and his writings to the Council of Nicaea he addresses Barclay’s heresy. That’s not a good think to be in the crosshairs of the Father of Orthodoxy addressing him and the Arians for their shared errors!

The frightening thing about Mark T. Barclay like all like him. They say that they believe something but go out and teach thee worst Trinitarian and Christological heresies known to the Church as in the case of Barclay. Whereas, the Jehovah Witnesses, we know what they believe, because flat out most of the time they will tell you.

But then again, in the case of Mark T. Barclay it’s his own credibility that is being ruined from his own apostasy. Because his statements are not true and people know that and the ministries that come to this site for info can see that. Barclay has not always held to an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and he should admit his great theological errors that lead to his apostasy instead of otherwise.

TD Jake’s journey to Trinitarianism is much different. It’s been one of repentance in humility and he is still on that journey. This is quite different from Mark T. Barclay, much different. Barclay reminds me of a kid who got caught stealing cookies, while pulling his hand from the cookie jar, cries, “I didn’t do it!”. People know better. The only people who don’t know better are deceived or are liberals who don’t care about sound doctrine.

Let it not be forgotten that in regards to Mark T. Barclay, we are not only talking about heresy, but apostasy. If he really has an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and the Person of Christ then time will tell, because it will be in the fruit of his teachings. But it’s a deceitful lie for him to say that he has always believed in the Trinity as the true Church does, because his track record tells otherwise. True faith is never without works….

“They do not seem to recognize the wickedness, the confusion and the heinousness of error. They appear to regard truth and error with equanimity. They do not have that holy love of truth and equally holy hatred of error that would secure them against apostasy.”

Ken

 

Updated: 11-02-2014

Mark T. Barclay: A different Trinity, a three-part being, by Ken Mattson

The Great Deacon Athanasius

The Great Deacon Athanasius

 With many applauses from his congregation in his heretical sermons on the Doctrine of the Trinity. The trinitarian heretic Mark T. Barclay  proclaims that the “great god”……he serves is a “three part being!”

“We call him Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You are made after the image of God. You are a spirit…you have a soul…you live in a body. God’s a three-part being. Humans were created by God in Eden as a three-part being.” Mark T. Barclay-The names of God part two.

So is the Trinity a three-part being as Mark T. Barclay teaches and believes in? NO! This is cultic, being absolutely heretical and not only that, but a blasphemous heresy on the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity!

By teaching that the Trinity is a three part being and not distinct Persons. The false prophet Mark T. Barclay is teaching a destructive heresy. Thus, Barclay’s god is drastically different from the Triune and personal God of the true Christian Church.

 Furthermore, like the Jehovah Witnesses who are the modern Arians, and who also heretically named God after his works as Creator. Mark T. Barclay names God as Creator, instead of the proper and Scriptural name as the eternal Father of the Lord Jesus. And greatly furthers the Arian heresy by teaching that God was not always called Father from eternity, but that there was change in God’s name for the sake of creation’s understanding.

 In other words, Mark T. Barclay continues the Arian heresy by naming God’s name as Creator and not the eternal Father, but teaches that there was change in God. Thus, clearly, Mark T. Barclay’s god is drastically different than the God of Christianity. Because the God of Christianity is one God being indivisible and Triune in three distinct Persons, and doesn’t change.

“Far removed is the Father of all from those things which operate among men, the affections and passions. He is simple, not composed of parts, without structure, altogether like and equal to himself alone. He is all mind, all spirit, all thought, all intelligence, all reason . . . all light, all fountain of every good..” Irenaeus, Against Heresies 2:13:3 [A.D. 189].

 In his newer book on the Trinity. Michael Reeves writes:

 “In Fact, we should not even set out in our understanding of God by thinking of God primarily as Creator(naming him “from” his works only)-that, as we have seen, would make him dependent on his creation.” Michael Reeves- Delighting in the Trinity.

 That quote was in reference to Saint Athanasius to his brilliant life long defence of the Doctrine of the Trinity against the Arians. But I’d like to add more and that it’s not only in regards to God’s name. As Saint Athanasius went on to say further that by naming God from his works as Creator did indeed warped and destroyed the true Christian God’s own identity as the eternal Father. Thus making a different god than from Scripture as the heretic Mark T. Barclay and the Arians blasphemous do in their shared teachings on the Godhead.

 “Therefore it is more pious and more accurate to signify God from the Son and call Him Father, than to name Him from His works.” Church Father-Saint Athanasius, Discourses Against the Arians: Discourse 1, Chapter 9:34

 I believe in one God, the Father Almighty.”  The Nicene Creed http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nicene.htm

Thus, Mark T. Barclay is not only heretically wrong in one way by evilly teaching that God is a three-part being and not Persons. He is also heretically wrong in other ways by furthering the Arian heresy by teaching that the Father wasn’t Father,  but was Creator and that there was changed in God.

As I already told Richard Jolliff and Chuck Seeley about Mark T. Barclay. Men who by the way, are both anti-denominational and basic doctrinal stupids in their own right! I told both of them, that in Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity. There are at least three evil heresies the Christian church has already condemned. Thus, Mark T. Barclay not only heretically denies the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, but he is worshipping a different god who is a trinity of parts and not distinct eternal Persons as Scripture clearly teaches.

Furthermore, men like Chuck Seeley and Mark T. Barclay can’t look to the Orthodoxy of the Church on such important doctrines as the Trinity or the Orthodox doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ and Original Sin(Pelagius). Why? Because once they do, they are indicted as heretics for their evil heresies! Not only by Scripture, but indicted in time and space by the Church Fathers through the Orthodoxy on which the true Christian church stands.

Rick Renner, quoting A. W. Tozer, who was one of the most balanced theologians of modern times. Renner quotes:

“The apostles not only taught truth but contended for its purity against any who would corrupt it. The Pauline epistles resist every effort of false teachers to introduce doctrinal vagaries. John’s epistles are sharp with condemnation of those teachers who harassed the young church by denying the incarnation and throwing doubts upon the doctrine of the Trinity; and Jude in his brief but powerful epistle rises to heights of burning eloquence as he pours scorn upon evil teachers who would mislead the saints.”

So, does Mark T. Barclay believe in the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, which is held by the true Church? Absolutely not! But if you believe that he does, then you are as stupid and very much deceived as the Galatians! Because Barclay’s own teachings heretically deny such Orthodox belief. No paper thin Statement of Beliefs on the internet can cover up what he already teaches.

Anyone can lie and say they believe in something, and not practice it! Or in Barclay’s case, falsely say that he believes in the Trinity by a posted Statement of Beliefs. Yet, then goes about and destroys such Orthodox beliefs on the Trinity and teachings on the eternal Person of Jesus Christ through evil heresies.

So in summery, Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is heresy and compounded with heresies and the obvious ones are Arianism and Sabellianism. Mark’s own conception of God is irrefutably Arian in nature and his evil denial of actual Persons in the Godhead is Sabellianism.

Isn’t it ironic that the most celebrated defender of the Trinity, Saint Athanasius who is the Father of Orthodoxy. Would address the so called Bible-man himself Mark T. Barclay on the pages of Athanasius own writings against the Arians? And not only in the writings against the Arians, but Athanasius also addresses Barclay in his writings to the First Council of Nicaea on the Trinity. He not only address Barclay, but directly refutes Mark T. Barclay’s evil teachings.

It’s not only ironic, but it’s very prophetic . It must be quite unnerving to be in Barclay’s shoes and find himself and his teaching on the Trinity being refuted and condemned word by word, by the great Athanasius, which happened more than seventeen centuries ago. When the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity was put forth at Nicaea to combat the Arian heresy.

Thus, the status and legacy of Mark T. Barclay in light of Scripture and the Church’s Orthodoxy is that he is a heretic and self-condemned by his own evil teachings on the Godhead and the Person of Christ and this is irrefutable.

As Walter Martin used to say in regards to false doctrine: “Does anyone get excited in the presents of evil anymore?”

“In Genesis Chapter. 1, it defines the Trinity of God, the three parts of God. You are made by the way after his image, three parts. There was a Creator, he was later called Jehovah. There was his word, later on when he come here God said you call this baby, not the Word, but Jesus which really means Yahshua….and then of course the bible talks about the Spirit of God……now these aren’t three different people. We teach them sorta, kinda almost as three different people for the sake of teaching. Now that Creator, Word and Spirit for the sake of man understanding and relating was changed by God, you can read it in the Scriptures, I know you know this, forgive me this so elementary. But it was changed to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” Mark T. Barclay, Jesus the command giver

In complete denial of the “Persons” of the Trinity. Barclay goes on and further mixes up who the members of the Trinity are. This is not isolated, because the ramifications of  this destructive heresy continues to manifest in the leadership’s prayers from the teaching pulpit. Where they mix up the names and roles of the eternal Persons of the Trinity.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

America knew that former President Bill Clinton committed adultery because all the facts pointed to that even when he publicly denied it in the first place. We know that Mark T. Barclay has taught the worst heresy on the Trinity and the Person of Christ by what he has taught and now is lying that he did otherwise. If a person will lie about God who is Trinity, than they are capable of lying about anything. The facts point to his apostasy from his heresy and now Barclay is publicly lying that he did otherwise.

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use.

 

Mark T. Barclay and Ed Dufresne: Scandal, Incestuous Fornication and Legacy. Written by Ken Mattson

“The grueling details became abundantly clear. My dad had stolen my brother’s wife, even hiring and paying for a divorce attorney for her, and now he is trying to steal his daughter! On January 7th, 2010 our dad married Lorena Matthews, in a ceremony performed by his so called ‘spiritual father’, Ed Dufresne, who saw no issue with the union. I guess he forgot to read Leviticus 18 or 1 Corinthians 5!”

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html Dr. Ed Dufresne speaks to members of the Triumphant Faith Center Thursday night in Wichita. (photo by Ashlee Burlie)  Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html#storylink=cpy

Grabbed here..http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/18/3065996/california-pastor-pilot-killed.html Dr. Ed Dufresne speaks to members of the Triumphant Faith Center Thursday night in Wichita. (photo by Ashlee Burlie)

Who is Ed Dufresne? Well, basically he was a very close friend to Mark T. Barclay and a troubled Word of Faith minister who recently died a horrible death much like the evil heretic Arius.

It was reported last week that so called prophet Ed Dufresne plane exploded in the sky after a climb of more than 10 thousand feet and plane parts strung out for more than a mile and from the gruesome report it also seems body parts were also found in the scattered wreckage.

Way back in the middle or late 1990’s and 2000’s I attended a few of Mr. Defresne meetings while I lived in the United States. It wasn’t exactly like being in a Kenneth E. Hagin Sr service, which I also attended when I visited Rhema Bible College earlier that decade. But it was on a similar level, because Defresne was one of Hagin’s copy cats.

One of the main emphasis in all of Ed Defresne ministry teachings was his anti-denominational beliefs that clearly was the basis of a lot of his false teachings and it’s interesting to note that his calling was based on voices and personal visions that he said were from Jesus.

While Defresne preaching would be considered pretty good in Word-faith circles. Much of it was out of personal experience and not based on Scripture alone nor to my knowledge was is preaching exegetical enough to call it true biblical teaching.

In other words, the majority of his teachings stemmed from Word-faith and clerical ideas supported and lines up exactly to what is being practiced and preached in other Charismatic offshoots today. Such as in many of the Shepherding and Third Wave movements.

In recent years, prophet Ed Dufresne conducted an disgusting act of the incestuous marriage to his long time son in the faith Doctor and

Reverend Bill Matthews of Solid Rock Church in Elk River, Minnesota to Matthew’s own daughter-in-law.

From what I understand, the Reverends’ wife was sick and dying while he was carrying out an affair with his own son’s wife in another room. All along while the good son was away serving the country in the military.

I can hardly imagine such an heinous act being done like this… As in Christian leader as doing incestuous fornication! That this father should have and take his own son’s wife, which is his daughter in law! And beyond that the absolute the depraved sick conduct of Mr. Ed Dufresne’s part in bringing the two incest couple together in a covenant union.

This depraved conduct is beyond words…. But then again we have Mark T. Barclay who was Defresne close buddy preaching something much more heinously sick and more evil in the Church with his heretical teaching on the Doctrine of the Trinity!

This depraved conduct is beyond words…. But then again we have Mark T. Barclay who was Defresne close buddy preaching something much more heinously sick and more evil in the Church with his heretical teaching on the Doctrine of the Trinity! By the wayTrinitarian heresy, like incestuous fornication, destroys the temple of God!

So right after his wife’s death and his son’s divorce prophet Ed Dufresne and long time close ministry friend of Mark T. Barclay conducted the scandalous incest union between Reverend Bill Matthews and his daughter-in-law.

Incest defined

Incest is sexual activity between family members and close relatives. This may include sexual activity between people in a consangueous relationship (blood relations), or related by affinity, such as members of the same household, step relatives, those related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage.     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest

1. Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom. 2. The statutory crime of sexual relations with such a near relative.    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incest

It should be noted that the incestuous marriage, even as of recently before Defresne death. That prophet Dufresne preached at Reverend Matthew’s church multiple times and this comes after Defresne did under Barclay’s friendship this sinful and heinous act in marrying the couple.

“Here I also want to add that just because this pastor got married to his daughter in law. That this doesn’t mean that the sin of incest is cleared, because they are married now. But the fact is, that he is living in incest even after the marriage…” Ken Mattson

Here I also want to add that just because this pastor got married to his daughter in law. That this doesn’t mean that the sin of incest is cleared, because they are married now. But the fact is, that he is living in incest even after the marriage.

Moreover, it’s not just incest which is shameful in itself that he is living in, but it’s compounded and more deprave being Incestuous Fornication. So, if you are one of Barclay’s and Defresnes connected leaders and thinking that this pastor is already cleared of sin like Mark T. Barclay, because he is married. Well, then you are completely wrong, because biblically he is not!

Beyond that, this is a matter of his sin and Matthew’s incestuous sin that Ed Defresne should have dealt with after marry the incest couple. Then condone and cover his actions someway like Mark T. Barclay Ministries did both morally and theologically in regards to Defresnse friendship and conduct is radically sinful, because Scripture doesn’t condone such sick sin, which he committed himself as a minster and a so called prophet.

But then again there are others who were notified about his shame in Mark T. Barclay’s Righteous Preachers Network like Mac Hammond who did nothing to stop this shameful actions of so called prophet Ed Defresne!

In regarding the incidence of incest in the Corinthian Church, Pentecostal theologian Gordon Fee writes in his commentary:

“The problem, however, is not simply a relaxed attitude toward sin, but whether they also tried to give a theological basis for it and thereby to condone it.”

Pentecostal and New Testament theologian Gordon D. Fee. The Case of the Incestuous Man. Page 197, Commentary on First Corinthians.

“…but had his father been dead, and he, after his decease, married to her, it had been incest still, but neither fornication nor adultery in the strictest sense. But to marry her, or keep her as a concubine, while his father was alive, though he had repudiated her, or she had deserted him, whether she were his own mother or not, was incestuous fornicationMatthew Henry on First Corinthians.

But in contrary to biblical holiness and morality, Mark T. Barclay has this to say this on Ed Dufrasne his long time ministry buddy who recently conducted the marriage that resulted in this unthinkably incestuous fornication sin:

“Another great earth warrior and champion, Dr. Ed Dufresne, has entered Heaven to fellowship that much closer with the Jesus he loved so much and to wander there with great glee and joy in the place he preached about so often. He’s now fellowshipping with one of his favorite men of God, Dr. Kenneth Hagin….Over the years, Brother Dufresne and I have ministered together in many, many conferences and outpouring meetings. I know he will be rewarded in Heaven and, of course, extremely missed here on earth.”

Really Barclay? You make your friendship with Ed’s sickness sound so flowery. Why is he Ed not fellowshipping with the Apostle Paul who part of the true Church and inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote against Defresne’s sin of marrying this couple?

Your close buddy is a champion…..of incest and fornication? And Barclay presumptuously calls himself a preacher of righteousness! But yet refused to do anything about his ministry buddy who conducted this heinous act of marrying this incestuous couple and not only a couple, but Christian leaders.

False prophet and heretic pastor Mark T. Barclay like all other heretics is a great liar like his father the devil, who was a liar from the beginning and like Barclay there is no truth in the devil! Mark T. Barclay’s preaching on morality is paper thin and we can see this and it’s only to draw people to himself for money and followers.

If this wasn’t so, then Barclay would have dealt with Ed Dufresne and others in heinous sin that his close friends commit on a national level. This is the same thing when Mark T. Barclay comes to the pulpit and says that he believes in the Trinity, but then denies such orthodoxy with his evil heresy. This is because he is a liar and walking in great darkness, which the Christian Church has condemned.

Last Update: Nov 7, 2013. This post has gotten more hits than many others that I’ve posted, with the exception of the the topic of Mark T. Barclay and the Trinity. 

Mark T. Barclay: Accusations by way of Ad Hominem, by Ken Mattson

Ad hominem

1. appealing to one’s prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one’s intellect or reason.

2. attacking an opponent’s character rather than answering his argument.

Definition from dictionary.com

I have been meaning to address this this accusation for a while. I even wanted to do a podcast for this one, but I never got around in having enough time and my 2010 Macbook decided to finally quit. So, I was left to do blogging for the last 8 months on Windows until I received my new Macbook a few weeks ago.

Do I hate Mark T. Barclay? 

For one, I think this is a stupid question, but then again in the mind of his followers, it may be a legible one.

Though on the contrary, I certainly don’t do this blog out of hate for anyone and not even hate for false prophet as Mark T. Barclay or even other cults like the Latter Day Saints. But I blog out of the commandment to contend for the faith.

“Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.” Jude 1:3

One of the questions that I’ve personally had and it’s been a rhetorical one so far is why hasn’t anyone else said anything about Barclay’s heretical teaching on the Orthodox Doctrine on the Trinity?

Even though that question has been rhetorical, from what I’ve seen in reality is that most Christians who know better, would rather Facebook about American right wing politics, than do any kind of apologetic work that would overtime help the Church in Mid-Michigan and further in the United States.

When I first wrote about the Captivity of Amazing Grace Church, I wrote this:

“Just as a donkey spoke to the false prophet Balaam, so to do donkeys speak to Mark T. Barclay today, but these donkeys are only analogous to the dumbness of the animal. The donkeys I am referring to are the men who I have mentioned before in Barclay’s own Preacher of Righteousness Network. These men are theological anorexics who flatter Barclay even as he is in deep error.”

While I still think that statement is true. I think it’s even worse, because of the radical acceptance of heresy that runs across the board in regards to the prophet ministry of Mark T. Barclay.

Helps Ministry

Helps Ministry

These men who have been trained by Mark T. Barclay are absolute stupids in Pauline terms! For many of the men can’t think theologically beyond cleaning toilets in the help’s ministry at Barclay’s own church….(Yes, they are theologically dumb as the back side of Balaam’s donkey!)

So the reality is when this blog wrote with concise examples about how Mark T. Barclay by his own evil has not only categorically denied the Trinity, but has taught heretically on this central doctrine. These men have the extreme audacity to come back and say that he has done differently. Well, it’s an astonishing show of their absolute ignorance of basic Biblical Christianity….!

“We call him Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You are made after the image of God. You are a spirit…you have a soul…you live in a body. God’s a three-part being. Humans were created by God in Eden as a three-part being.” Mark T. Barclay-The names of God part two.

These men show knowing more about Mark T. Barclay’s ‘neat’ sock drawer, than Christian doctrine!(And they have the nerve to called that bible college). I mean, for Pete’s sake, when was having a tidy sock drawer an character of a man of God? I thought it was sound doctrine! Well, Gandhi, probably had a perfect sock drawer, if he even wore socks that is…..lol

But on a more serious note, this coincides with one recent poll reported that atheist and agnostics know more about the Bible and Christian doctrine much better than Evangelicals. Mormons and Jewish believers came in second place. From the standpoint of this blog and from my interaction with Mark T. Barclay Preacher of Righteousness network leaders. I’d say the ignorance is even worse with men who are under Barclay’s leadership.

For example in Mark T. Barclay’s Minister of Righteousness Network, we can see this from the teachings of Chuck Seeley, who also is a Mayor of Breckenridge, Michigan. Not only is he a mayor, but he is also the worship leader at Amazing Grace Church.

I used Charlie, because his views reflect the great evil by way of false teachings that have come out of Amazing Grace Church in Wheeler, Michigan, which is under Mark T. Barclay’s leadership. For Chuck Seeley, will point blank tell anyone that Pelagius was a christian saint.

I personally know this, because I heard Richard Jolliff teach it and I confronted Chuck Seeley privately through email and Seeley emphatically wrote me back that Pelagius was indeed a saint and not a heretic. Even though in reality, every bit of history describes Pelagius and Pelagianism differently.

Pelagius (354 – 420?) a British monk famous for his piety, but declared a heretic for denying original sin. http://www.theopedia.com/Pelagius

Who was Pelagius? He was a preacher of righteousness and very moral like Gandhi, but don’t let his morality preaching fool you. Pelagius was an evil heretic and condemned by more Church councils than any other heretic in the history of Christianity.

And not only condemned heretic, Pelagius’s teachings are behind the most heinous crimes in the history of humanity. Like the ones committed byhitler Nazi Germany against God’s chosen people, the Jews, the child medical experiments at Auschwitz and all the other horrors of World War II were all spawned from the man Pelagius who Chuck Seeley heretically teaches was a saint.

William P. Farley writes for the Assembly of God’s Enrichment Journal:

The opposite is also true. Failure to emphasize the doctrine of sin usually amplifies evil. The better we feel about ourselves the worse we usually become. In the 20th century, Pelagian ideals have unleashed untold horrors. All the utopian movements of the last 100 years — Communism, Fascism, and Nazism — started and built on Pelagian assumptions about man.

So as a minister and mayor, why would Chuck Seeley teach that Pelagius was a saint even when Pelagian ideas were behind Nazism? It’s the same horrible reason why Richard Jolliff of the same church would let Mark T. Barclay act like Hitler in the damnation of Protestant Christianity at Amazing Grace Church.

It’s an example of their great darkness that works against the Church and humanity. Men who are led by the spirit of error along with their leader and prophet Mark T. Barclay. Men, proven to have no regard for Biblical Christianity. Openly teaching evil so great that it’s not only heretical in regards to the Trinity, but it’s also murderous in regards to God’s people!

Children medical experiments

Children medical experiments, Auschwitz

Without doubt and by facts alone we know what these men teach by the simple truth of what they teach. It’s not rocket science here! The sad thing is that it’s obvious that Mark T. Barclay’s followers don’t read the bible. Nor are they submitted to the authority of Scripture, because they are unable to recognize great error even on basic Biblical doctrines as the Trinity.

The truth is that Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is evil. For he teaches that the one God doesn’t eternally exist as three distinct persons-the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  But instead Barclay teaches that God is made up or composed of parts, which is heretical and is the worse Trinitarian heresy in the history of Christianity.

“His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person.” Hebrews 1:2-3 KJV

Frankly, there is no way that any verse in regards to the Godhead can be rendered as “parts” or a “part”, because it would have been translated so by the New Testament translators.  We can easily make this conclusion, because even the Authorized Version doesn’t support such aweful hermeneutics as in Mark T. Barclay’s heresy….

And the express image of his person; this intends much the same as the other phrase; namely, equality and sameness of nature, and distinction of persons; for if the Father is God, Christ must be so too; and if he is a person, his Son must be so likewise, or he cannot be the express image and character of him.Bible Study Tools

It’s just more proof directly from Scripture itself that Mark T. Barclay is in deep heretical error and is worshiping and prophesying by a different Christ who is not the Father’s express image of His “person”.

The Doctrine of the Trinity and the Orthodox doctrine of the Person of Christ is not a Calvinist doctrine though it’s held by Calvinist believers, nor is the Trinity just a Pentecostal or Charismatic doctrine! But it’s a shared doctrine by the Church.

So, when this blog or any other theologian writes about the Doctrine of the Trinity, we end up quoting a vast range of theologians and pastors from all across the Body of Christ, space and time. Because of this, we can say that the defining doctrines that separate the Kingdom of Christ from the Kingdom of Cults are these central doctrines of the Trinity and the Person of Christ.

And on top of that, we need to quote what Scripture has stated, because as we can see. Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is not for one second supported by Scripture alone nor by Christian orthodoxy and historically has been condemned as heresy.

Most bankers will know a counterfeit dollar bill from a real dollar bill by what it feels like. And in a very similar way by comparison, we know that beyond a shadow of doubt that Mark T. Barclay is a counterfeit and a great liar, along with being a heretic by what he falsely teaches and prophesies.

In other words, just as counterfeit bills can be identified by those who used them. We, also know that Mark T. Barclay when compared to the hitler-e-mussoliniChurch’s orthodox teachings and the Bible concerning the Doctrine of the Trinity and the Person of Christ that Mark T. Barclay is a counterfeit.

In closing, Barclay and his faithful my use ad hominems against this blog and blogger, but it doesn’t change the truth that he is a heretic and his ministry is a dangerous cult. And that goes also for other men in Barclay’s Preacher of Righteousness network like Chuck Seeley.

As we’ve seen above, Pelagius was no saint, but he was a heretic, and historically a condemned heretic and his teaching is responsible for the Third Reich and the medical experiments on jewish children and the murder of millions of God’s people under Hitler’s Germany.

Mark T. Barclay and the Trinity by Ken Mattson

The Monster-prophet privately bringing in damnable heresies through Webinar...

The Monster-prophet privately bringing in damnable heresies through Webinar…

You can listen to another message found here where Mark T. Barclay again teaches heretical on the Evangelical Doctrine of the Trinity. Like other cults such as the Jehovah Witnesses, Mark T. Barclay and his ministry will use Biblical terms, but in reality they are talking about entirely different things and in the case of the Trinity, a different God composed of parts and not united distinct eternal persons.

For example, both Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses both will come to your door and tell you that they believe in Jesus Christ, but the truth is that their Jesus Christ resembles nothing of the Biblical Jesus believed on in Christian orthodoxy.

The New Testament never endorses the idea nor teaching that the Trinity is made up or composed of parts as Mark T. Barclay teaches. This is a heresy and it has been condemned officially by the Church 1700 years ago, but even before that it was condemned by the Apostles. How do we know that? Because we know by early Church writings and we know this historically as a fact.

What we are dealing with here is a dangerous heretic and not a man of God, but a blasphemer who will do anything to get his own way and who has hurt very many lives through greed and radically false teachings. Even a denial of the only Savior who is not a part, but is personal, being the second person in the Godhead.

The great danger is Mark T. Barclay will say on a simple statement of beliefs that he his ministry adheres to the Doctrine of the Trinity, but in all reality he doesn’t and we can say this by what he teaches. This is deception and it’s more dangerous than other cults, because at least in other cults like the Jehovah Witnesses they are open enough to tell you straight away that they don’t believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. Whereas, with Barclay though it’s way more hideous, because he slightly appears to hold to the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity through a paper thin statement of beliefs, but evilly deny it through false teachings.

The Trinity is a mystery and not composed as humans or in some twisted way as Mark T. Barclay imagines humans are made! The Trinity is defined as one God who exists in three eternal, simultaneous, and distinct persons known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is not first One and then Three, but simultaneously One and Three.

In closing it’s important to point out that Mark T. Barclay’s heresy on the Evangelical Doctrine of the Trinity is not an isolated instance. But it is taught multiple times and it runs through is books and services where they are not Trinitarian in worship, which services only centre around Word of Faith ideas on tithes and offerings, instead of the Triune God who alone is glorious.

In the link you can listen to Mark T. Barclay again teach heretical that God is a three part being.

wolf in Sheep's clothing

wolf in Sheep’s clothing

image grabbed from Pimpreacher.com

image grabbed from Pimpreacher.com

I’m so glad when I see other websites post great articles on Mark T. Barclay. It makes me feel like I’m not posting articles alone anymore! The Barclay’s have done their best to shut my work up in the past from lying to YouTube. So my videos would be taken down along with all their other cyber bullying.

The bottom line is that people need to speak up and speak out, because for one it brings healing or at least starts the process like we’ve seen on this blog before with the Former member of Barclay’s own church. And second, it brings the word out so others know about the cultic practices being done by Mark T. Barclay and his leadership and importantly the ones that were done by his former associates.

Pimppreacher.com recently ran this article on the false doc Mark T. Barclay and it’s nothing new or an exclusive that most of us haven’t heard before, but it brings the news to more of the masses:

“Although he is largely unknown, he is personal friends with the Copelands, Jessie Duplantis, and Mac Hammond. He ministers at their churches. This adds to the appeal for smaller pastors and congregations to follow him. When he arrives in small towns on his Citation III jet with his entourage, people feel like they are part of something big.

I was involved in a church under his control in Minnesota. although our congregation at the time was small (around 300-400 people) we had ushers that walked around with radios and earpieces policing the services. Our pastor and his wife also had “armor bearers” (personal attendants) that pretty much wait on them hand and foot. Everything is Dr. Barclay this and Dr. Barclay that.”
You can read more here.
Enjoy,
Ken

Mark T. Barclay’s Holy Spirit Conference 2013: The Counterfeit Spirit by Ken Mattson

 “In Genesis Chapter 1, it defines the Trinity of God, the three parts of God.” Theologian and Prophet, Mark T. Barclay[1]

 In this new blog post, I want to build upon what was already said concerning Mark T. Barclay’s destructive teachings against the Evangelical doctrine of the Trinity, but first I would like to do a refresh for those who are just tuning in.

 By denying the Persons of the Trinity and teaching that the Godhead is composed of parts like his son Josh. Mark T. Barclay is a heretic and teaching the worst heresy to ever affected and infected the Church.

 Furthermore, we can conclude along with the Creedal statements of the Historical Church that Mark T. Barclay not only has a different God by teaching heretically, but also a different Christ, like all other cults and false religions.

 The doctrine of the Trinity is so basic in Scripture, that it is a non-negotiable doctrine in Christianity. So, when a heretic teaches falsely on the Trinity, a dangerous chain reaction occurs in other foundational doctrines and one immediate catastrophe happens in Christology.

 “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.” 1 John 2:22-23

 How can I say that Mark T. Barclay has a different Christ? Well, it is not me who has, but Scripture speaks for itself and the Christ who is self-revealed in Scripture is personal and not only a person, but fully God and fully man. He is not a part of God, but he is fully God as with the other members of the Holy Trinity.

 Here is a little side note: Central teachings in Scripture regarding the Lord Jesus Christ, like the Hypostatic union are attacked by Mark T. Barclay’s Trinitarian heresy and not only by him, but other false prophets from other cults do the same in regards to Christology.[2]

 Only persons interact with others and we see this interaction in Holy Scripture between the Persons of the Trinity. Moreover, the Holy Spirit is not just a part as Mark T. Barclay falsely teaches, but the Spirit is fully God, being Lord. The Holy Spirit is personal, lovingly interacting with the other members of the Holy Trinity and the Church.

 So, by this we can conclude that Mark T. Barclay not only has the wrong Trinity, but by doing so. Barclay like other cults and false teachers has the wrong spirit and not the Holy Spirit.

 The Spirit revealed in the Bible and who was poured out on the Church is fully God and is Lord. He is not a part as Mark T. Barclay heretically teaches, but is personal, being the third Person in the Godhead.

 “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.” Acts 5:3-4

 The above passage specifically teaches that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit and here I would like to point out that only persons can be lied to. Peter also being a strict monotheist referred to the Spirit as God. He knew that there is only one God and yet he referred to the Holy Spirit as God.

 The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons–the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In other words, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three very important truths: 1. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, 2. Each Person is fully God, 3. There is only one God.

 There are dozens of Trinitarian passages in the bible, but let us look at another important one regarding the Logos.

 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.” John 1:1-4

 Who is the Word in reference to? Well it is Jesus, the eternal Son of God, who is the Word. We easily find that out by reading further in verse 14 and “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

 Here in John, the Word of God indicates distinction and not only distinction, but also indicates identity within the unity of the Godhead. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not different parts or forms or components appearing in one God, but on the contrary! Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are present from the beginning(eternity), which suggest a relationship of close personal intimacy.

 In the Greek, John 1.1 refers to a face to face relationship between the members of the Trinity. It is so important to point out here that ‘if’ the Trinity was made up of parts as Mark T. Barclay teaches, than a face to face relationship would be impossible, because there would be no way that Josh Barclay ‘being made of three parts’ could speak to himself face to face. The New Testament never endorses the idea that the Trinity is made up of parts.

 It is clearly heretical to teach that God is made up of parts! Mark T. Barclay, like the Jehovah Witnesses have warped the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity by denying the co-equal and co-eternal Persons of the Trinity.

 To the Jehovah Witnesses, the Word is less than deity and not fully God, but is a god and to Mark T. Barclay, the Word is just a part of God. Furthermore, Barclay denies the Word is the Second Person in the Holy Trinity by teaching, “He’s just one, he’s just got three parts”.

Athanasius Mark T. Barclay and the Jehovah Witnesses have sister heresies condemned by the Church. Saint Athanasius describes Barclay as a woman, whose father is the devil. So for those who perceive your prophet as an ‘Elder Statesman’. Well, the famous Church father has demoted Mark T. Barclay to his rightful place as an ‘elder sister’. (((insert  laugh))) Yep, the Father of Nicene orthodoxy just made fun of Mark T. Barclay!

 “But, whereas one heresy, and that the last, which has now risen as harbinger of Antichrist, the Arian, as it is called, considering that other heresies, her elder sisters, have been openly proscribed, in her craft and cunning, affects to array herself in Scripture language , like her father the devil, and is forcing her way back into the Church’s paradise.” Against the Arians by Saint Athanasius

 So, by teaching heretically on the Godhead. Mark T. Barclay not only attacks the Evangelical doctrine of the Trinity, but he also attacks the deity of Christ. There is no way around it! If Christ was only a part of God, than the Apostle John would have not referenced the Word as God, ‘the Word was God’ , nor identified him distinctly from the Father.

 “Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

 Prophetically addressing Mark T. Barclay’s heresy, the Father of Nicene orthodoxy writes:

 “As we said above, so now we repeat, that the divine generation must not be compared to the nature of men nor the Son considered to be part of God nor the generation to imply any passion whatever; God is not as man; for men beget passibly, having a transitive nature, which waits for periods by reason of its weakness. But with God this cannot be; for He is not composed of parts, but being impassible and simple, He is impassibly and indivisibly Father of the Son.” Discourse 1:28 Against the Arians by Saint Athanasius

 In dealing with the Arian heresy, Saint Athanasius also deals with Mark T. Barclay’s heresy.

 So, it is pretty clear that Barclay’s heretical teaching on the Trinity is not only one heresy, but it is also partially Arianism. By the way, for those who are wondering. The modern Arians are non-other than the Jehovah Witnesses, who hold to a modified version of Arianism.

 If the Church, through Christian orthodoxy recognizes the Jehovah Witnesses, who are the modern day Arians have a different Jesus and gospel. Then by the same orthodoxy, we can and should be also able to conclude that Mark T. Barclay has a different God and Christ, by teaching a heretically on the Trinity.

 We have to be fair with this, or we will end up breaking the law of non-contradiction, which we would do so by saying that one group is heretical by having a teaching outside Christian orthodoxy and then saying another group like Mark T. Barclay is not by propagating the same type of heresy condemned by the Church through the Councils and Creeds.

 It is important to remember that when the Church formulated the orthodox statements in the Apostles and the Nicene Creeds, they were formulated before the whole Church initially split between the East and West. So, it was the whole leadership of the Church with one voice gathering to deal with Mark T. Barclay’s heresy and condemned it along with the Arians.

 The doctrinal statements like the Trinity, the Person of Christ, the Atonement, Original Sin, and the Resurrection are so foundational in Christianity. These doctrines form the line of demarcation between heresy and orthodoxy and they also form the line of demarcation between the Kingdom of Christ and the Kingdom of the Cults. These teachings are so important, because the Gospel itself rest upon them.

 “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”   2 Peter 2:1-3

References

 1.“In heaven Jesus was not known as Jesus, he was known as the word. In Genesis Chapter 1 it defines the Trinity of God, the three parts of God. You are made by the way after his image, three parts. There was a Creator, he was later called Jehovah, there was his word, later on when he come here. God said you call this baby, not the Word, but Jesus which really means Yahshua…. which really means the savior….So this Word in heaven he was the Word and then of course the bible talks about the Spirit of God there hovering over the creation of God. So there was the Creator he spoke through the power of his word……now these aren’t three different people. We teach them sorta, kinda almost as three different people for the sake of teaching. Now that Creator, Word and Spirit for the sake of man understanding and relating was changed by God, you can read it in the Scriptures, I know you know this, forgive me this so elementary. But it was changed to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father, the Creator, the Son of God really the Word who became flesh and dwelt among us….and then the Spirit, the great Holy Spirit……So you are three parts right after the image of God.” Mark T. Barclay, Jesus, the command giver.

 2. The Hypostatic Union is the union of the two natures (Divine and human) in the Person of Jesus and is so basic to Christianity. If Christ is only a part(like the other members of the Holy Trinity) and not a Person in the Godhead, as Mark T. Barclay teaches. Then there can be no Hypostatic Union, thus undermining the gospel itself by paralyzing the central eschatological figure in all Scripture, who is Christ.

“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me.” John 5:39