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Billy Graham“The Bible teaches that God is actually three Persons. This is a mystery that we will never be able to understand. The Bible does not teach that there are three Gods –but that there is one God. This one God, however, is expressed in three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit.”

 “The Second Person of this Trinity is God’s Son, Jesus Christ. He is co-equal with God the Father. He was not a Son of God but the Son of God. He is the Eternal Son of God –the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, God manifested in the flesh, the living Savior.” Peace with God by Billy Graham, Page 89.

 The above quote is from Reverend Billy Graham, who is the most celebrated Evangelical of our time. Throughout Graham’s books and preaching of the Gospel there is always an underlying Trinitarianism as seen above.

 So in this post, I want to point out further the distinctions between the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity and Mark T. Barclay’s Trinitarian heresy . Or in other words, I want to show again how drastically different Mark T. Barclay’s god is being a three-part being and not Persons in Trinity as he teaches. And by contrast continue to show that Mark T. Barclay is worshipping a different god than Christianity.

Though on Twitter, Mark T. Barclay says he believes in the Trinity, but when Barclay’s actual teachings and sermons on the Trinity are contrasted with Billy Graham and Christian orthodoxy, this is apparently not so.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

 Subsequently, like all other trinitarian heretics. Not only does Barclay deny such Orthodoxy held by Evangelicals as Billy Graham, but destroys it through his heretical teachings on both the Trinity and the Person of Jesus Christ.

 Thus, Mark T. Barclay’s own falsehood is just part of his masquerade to get people to believe a lie by clothing his false messages on the Trinity with the language of Scripture. And another way to get more money to pay for his jet and other over expenditures and for people to think he is a genuine a leader and an Evangelical.

 One would have to be Scripturally stupid to believe Mark T. Barclay after listening to him teach on the Doctrine of the Trinity. I say stupid, because this is the language of Scripture to all who receive a false gospel.

 Why did I say gospel? Well, because a God who is composed of parts is not the God of the Lord Jesus Christ and a god composed of parts as Mark T. Barclay’s can’t save.

 God, however, being without parts, is Father of the Son without division and without being acted upon. For neither is there an effluence from that which is incorporeal, nor is there anything flowering into him from without, as in the case of men. Being simple in nature, he is Father of one only Son” Saint Athanasius (Letter on the Council of Nicaea A.D. 350)

 One of the words used by Saint Athanasius in the above quotes that immediately condemns Mark T. Barclay’s heresy is the word “incorporeal”. What does incorporeal mean? It means that God does not have a body and is not composed of parts, and certainly not a three-part being as Barclay teaches.  

Thus, God is spirit as the Bible teaches and it’s absolutely unscriptural and heretical for Mark T. Barclay to teach who the Trinity is composed of parts like his son Josh and not distinct Persons. “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24

 Why is the Trinity important? Well, first of all it’s important, because it’s God’s own identity and the Doctrine of the Trinity, and along with the Doctrine on the Person of Christ regulates true worship.

 The Doctrine of the Trinity is so important that it separates true worship and false worship and it separates Christianity from cults. Clearly, Mark T. Barclay, being a heretic is worshiping another god who is a trinity of parts.

 “But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted.” 2 Cor 11:3-4

“Something has emerged in my walk with God that has become the most important element of my discipleship. It has become the thing that sustains me, that feeds me, that keeps me steady when I am shaky. I have come to see God, to know Him, to relate to Him as Three-in-One, God as Trinity, God as Father, Saviour, and Holy Spirit. God has given to me over the years a vision of Himself as Three-in-One, and the ability to relate to God in that way is the single most important fact of my Christian growth.”  The Magnificent Three by Nicky Cruz

dangerHERE IS A VIDEO ON MARK T. BARCLAY’S HERESY ON THE TRINITY.  

A somewhat positive development has happened, so it seemed.

It seemed like Mark T. Barclay was changing his heretical position on the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, because on his twitter was tweeting Orthodox statements on the Trinity the last few days.

 Now he is saying on Twitter that he has always believed in the Trinity, but we know that isn’t the case with him, because his Trinitarian heresies are well documented. Not only that, but his books and teachings in whole aren’t Trinitarian.

This makes me wonder if Mark T. Barclay really knows the difference between truth and error and I think you should be asking the same question. Does he even hate error, even his own heretical error? This is what separates a man of God from other leaders and this is called holiness. Or is Mark T. Barclay just good at pointing things out in others for a righteous ‘show’.

All through out Saint Athanasius’s writings against the Arians and his writings to the Council of Nicaea he addresses Barclay’s heresy. That’s not a good think to be in the crosshairs of the Father of Orthodoxy addressing him and the Arians for their shared errors!

The frightening thing about Mark T. Barclay like all like him. They say that they believe something but go out and teach thee worst Trinitarian and Christological heresies known to the Church as in the case of Barclay. Whereas, the Jehovah Witnesses, we know what they believe, because flat out most of the time they will tell you.

But then again, in the case of Mark T. Barclay it’s his own credibility that is being ruined from his own apostasy. Because his statements are not true and people know that and the ministries that come to this site for info can see that. Barclay has not always held to an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and he should admit his great theological errors that lead to his apostasy instead of otherwise.

TD Jake’s journey to Trinitarianism is much different. It’s been one of repentance in humility and he is still on that journey. This is quite different from Mark T. Barclay, much different. Barclay reminds me of a kid who got caught stealing cookies, while pulling his hand from the cookie jar, cries, “I didn’t do it!”. People know better. The only people who don’t know better are deceived or are liberals who don’t care about sound doctrine.

Let it not be forgotten that in regards to Mark T. Barclay, we are not only talking about heresy, but apostasy. If he really has an Orthodox understanding of the Trinity and the Person of Christ then time will tell, because it will be in the fruit of his teachings. But it’s a deceitful lie for him to say that he has always believed in the Trinity as the true Church does, because his track record tells otherwise. True faith is never without works….

“They do not seem to recognize the wickedness, the confusion and the heinousness of error. They appear to regard truth and error with equanimity. They do not have that holy love of truth and equally holy hatred of error that would secure them against apostasy.”

Ken

 

Updated: 11-02-2014

Mark T. Barclay: A different Trinity, a three-part being, by Ken Mattson

The Great Deacon Athanasius

The Great Deacon Athanasius

 With many applauses from his congregation in his heretical sermons on the Doctrine of the Trinity. The trinitarian heretic Mark T. Barclay  proclaims that the “great god”……he serves is a “three part being!”

“We call him Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. You are made after the image of God. You are a spirit…you have a soul…you live in a body. God’s a three-part being. Humans were created by God in Eden as a three-part being.” Mark T. Barclay-The names of God part two.

So is the Trinity a three-part being as Mark T. Barclay teaches and believes in? NO! This is cultic, being absolutely heretical and not only that, but a blasphemous heresy on the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity!

By teaching that the Trinity is a three part being and not distinct Persons. The false prophet Mark T. Barclay is teaching a destructive heresy. Thus, Barclay’s god is drastically different from the Triune and personal God of the true Christian Church.

 Furthermore, like the Jehovah Witnesses who are the modern Arians, and who also heretically named God after his works as Creator. Mark T. Barclay names God as Creator, instead of the proper and Scriptural name as the eternal Father of the Lord Jesus. And greatly furthers the Arian heresy by teaching that God was not always called Father from eternity, but that there was change in God’s name for the sake of creation’s understanding.

 In other words, Mark T. Barclay continues the Arian heresy by naming God’s name as Creator and not the eternal Father, but teaches that there was change in God. Thus, clearly, Mark T. Barclay’s god is drastically different than the God of Christianity. Because the God of Christianity is one God being indivisible and Triune in three distinct Persons, and doesn’t change.

“Far removed is the Father of all from those things which operate among men, the affections and passions. He is simple, not composed of parts, without structure, altogether like and equal to himself alone. He is all mind, all spirit, all thought, all intelligence, all reason . . . all light, all fountain of every good..” Irenaeus, Against Heresies 2:13:3 [A.D. 189].

 In his newer book on the Trinity. Michael Reeves writes:

 “In Fact, we should not even set out in our understanding of God by thinking of God primarily as Creator(naming him “from” his works only)-that, as we have seen, would make him dependent on his creation.” Michael Reeves- Delighting in the Trinity.

 That quote was in reference to Saint Athanasius to his brilliant life long defence of the Doctrine of the Trinity against the Arians. But I’d like to add more and that it’s not only in regards to God’s name. As Saint Athanasius went on to say further that by naming God from his works as Creator did indeed warped and destroyed the true Christian God’s own identity as the eternal Father. Thus making a different god than from Scripture as the heretic Mark T. Barclay and the Arians blasphemous do in their shared teachings on the Godhead.

 “Therefore it is more pious and more accurate to signify God from the Son and call Him Father, than to name Him from His works.” Church Father-Saint Athanasius, Discourses Against the Arians: Discourse 1, Chapter 9:34

 I believe in one God, the Father Almighty.”  The Nicene Creed http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nicene.htm

Thus, Mark T. Barclay is not only heretically wrong in one way by evilly teaching that God is a three-part being and not Persons. He is also heretically wrong in other ways by furthering the Arian heresy by teaching that the Father wasn’t Father,  but was Creator and that there was changed in God.

As I already told Richard Jolliff and Chuck Seeley about Mark T. Barclay. Men who by the way, are both anti-denominational and basic doctrinal stupids in their own right! I told both of them, that in Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity. There are at least three evil heresies the Christian church has already condemned. Thus, Mark T. Barclay not only heretically denies the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, but he is worshipping a different god who is a trinity of parts and not distinct eternal Persons as Scripture clearly teaches.

Furthermore, men like Chuck Seeley and Mark T. Barclay can’t look to the Orthodoxy of the Church on such important doctrines as the Trinity or the Orthodox doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ and Original Sin(Pelagius). Why? Because once they do, they are indicted as heretics for their evil heresies! Not only by Scripture, but indicted in time and space by the Church Fathers through the Orthodoxy on which the true Christian church stands.

Rick Renner, quoting A. W. Tozer, who was one of the most balanced theologians of modern times. Renner quotes:

“The apostles not only taught truth but contended for its purity against any who would corrupt it. The Pauline epistles resist every effort of false teachers to introduce doctrinal vagaries. John’s epistles are sharp with condemnation of those teachers who harassed the young church by denying the incarnation and throwing doubts upon the doctrine of the Trinity; and Jude in his brief but powerful epistle rises to heights of burning eloquence as he pours scorn upon evil teachers who would mislead the saints.”

So, does Mark T. Barclay believe in the Orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, which is held by the true Church? Absolutely not! But if you believe that he does, then you are as stupid and very much deceived as the Galatians! Because Barclay’s own teachings heretically deny such Orthodox belief. No paper thin Statement of Beliefs on the internet can cover up what he already teaches.

Anyone can lie and say they believe in something, and not practice it! Or in Barclay’s case, falsely say that he believes in the Trinity by a posted Statement of Beliefs. Yet, then goes about and destroys such Orthodox beliefs on the Trinity and teachings on the eternal Person of Jesus Christ through evil heresies.

So in summery, Mark T. Barclay’s teaching on the Trinity is heresy and compounded with heresies and the obvious ones are Arianism and Sabellianism. Mark’s own conception of God is irrefutably Arian in nature and his evil denial of actual Persons in the Godhead is Sabellianism.

Isn’t it ironic that the most celebrated defender of the Trinity, Saint Athanasius who is the Father of Orthodoxy. Would address the so called Bible-man himself Mark T. Barclay on the pages of Athanasius own writings against the Arians? And not only in the writings against the Arians, but Athanasius also addresses Barclay in his writings to the First Council of Nicaea on the Trinity. He not only address Barclay, but directly refutes Mark T. Barclay’s evil teachings.

It’s not only ironic, but it’s very prophetic . It must be quite unnerving to be in Barclay’s shoes and find himself and his teaching on the Trinity being refuted and condemned word by word, by the great Athanasius, which happened more than seventeen centuries ago. When the Orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity was put forth at Nicaea to combat the Arian heresy.

Thus, the status and legacy of Mark T. Barclay in light of Scripture and the Church’s Orthodoxy is that he is a heretic and self-condemned by his own evil teachings on the Godhead and the Person of Christ and this is irrefutable.

As Walter Martin used to say in regards to false doctrine: “Does anyone get excited in the presents of evil anymore?”

“In Genesis Chapter. 1, it defines the Trinity of God, the three parts of God. You are made by the way after his image, three parts. There was a Creator, he was later called Jehovah. There was his word, later on when he come here God said you call this baby, not the Word, but Jesus which really means Yahshua….and then of course the bible talks about the Spirit of God……now these aren’t three different people. We teach them sorta, kinda almost as three different people for the sake of teaching. Now that Creator, Word and Spirit for the sake of man understanding and relating was changed by God, you can read it in the Scriptures, I know you know this, forgive me this so elementary. But it was changed to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” Mark T. Barclay, Jesus the command giver

In complete denial of the “Persons” of the Trinity. Barclay goes on and further mixes up who the members of the Trinity are. This is not isolated, because the ramifications of  this destructive heresy continues to manifest in the leadership’s prayers from the teaching pulpit. Where they mix up the names and roles of the eternal Persons of the Trinity.

“Those that permit the Holy Spirit to be their Father. Those who will allow the Holy Spirit, remember he’s not a third Person, he is God made up of three parts just like…my son Josh and his soul is not somebody else and his spirit is not someone else, and so I got to decipher…Now there’s not three people, it’s just one Josh three parts. There’s not three Gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, he’s just one. He’s just got three parts. So this great Holy Spirit wants to father you.” Jesus, the Command Giver – Mark T. Barclay

America knew that former President Bill Clinton committed adultery because all the facts pointed to that even when he publicly denied it in the first place. We know that Mark T. Barclay has taught the worst heresy on the Trinity and the Person of Christ by what he has taught and now is lying that he did otherwise. If a person will lie about God who is Trinity, than they are capable of lying about anything. The facts point to his apostasy from his heresy and now Barclay is publicly lying that he did otherwise.

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use

Image grabbed from twitter.com and used only for critisim, educational use.